Seroquel Causing Diabetes?

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persistence
August 7, 2014 - 7:35 am
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Total Posts: 1532
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Current medications as of 08-07-2014
10-30-1986 - Present: Alcohol (beer, vodka, etc.), 0.000001. NEVER
10-30-1986 - Present: Marijuana, 0.000000000001. NEVER
08-11-2007 - Present: Valium/diazepam, 5mg. Rarely, only if trouble sleeping at night.
08-29-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 100mg. Every night (or early morning) right before I go to sleep.
10-02-2012 - Present: MiniPress (Prazosin), 1mg at night. 10:00 PM
10-06-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 200mg. 10PM
10-31-2012 - Present: MiniPress (prazosin), 2mg. One hour before bedtime.
10-31-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 400mg. One hour before bedtime.
11-19-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. 10:00PM (1 hour before bed)
12-28-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. Each night at 10PM
01-07-2013 - Present: Lithium, 300mg. At night, with quetiapine and carbemazepine,
02-07-2013 - Present: Inositol Capsules, 4x500mgcapsules. At night, before bed.
05-10-2013 - Present: Lithium, 900mg. 450mg AM, 450PM
05-14-2013 - Present: Seroquel, 600mg. night
06-02-2013 - Present: Lithium, 1,000mg. 500 morning, 500 night
07-09-2013 - Present: Depakote, 500mg. 250mg, 12 + 12hrs, after morning & night meals
07-29-2013 - Present: Lithium, 2x300mg. 300 morn, 300 night
03-17-2014 - Present: Seroquel, 250 mg. 22:00 hours
06-01-2014 - Present: Diazepam, 10mg. before bed
07-31-2014 - Present: Lamotrogine, 25mg. before bed

I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
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persistence
August 7, 2014 - 7:35 am
Repeat post.



Current medications as of 08-07-2014
10-30-1986 - Present: Alcohol (beer, vodka, etc.), 0.000001. NEVER
10-30-1986 - Present: Marijuana, 0.000000000001. NEVER
08-11-2007 - Present: Valium/diazepam, 5mg. Rarely, only if trouble sleeping at night.
08-29-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 100mg. Every night (or early morning) right before I go to sleep.
10-02-2012 - Present: MiniPress (Prazosin), 1mg at night. 10:00 PM
10-06-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 200mg. 10PM
10-31-2012 - Present: MiniPress (prazosin), 2mg. One hour before bedtime.
10-31-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 400mg. One hour before bedtime.
11-19-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. 10:00PM (1 hour before bed)
12-28-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. Each night at 10PM
01-07-2013 - Present: Lithium, 300mg. At night, with quetiapine and carbemazepine,
02-07-2013 - Present: Inositol Capsules, 4x500mgcapsules. At night, before bed.
05-10-2013 - Present: Lithium, 900mg. 450mg AM, 450PM
05-14-2013 - Present: Seroquel, 600mg. night
06-02-2013 - Present: Lithium, 1,000mg. 500 morning, 500 night
07-09-2013 - Present: Depakote, 500mg. 250mg, 12 + 12hrs, after morning & night meals
07-29-2013 - Present: Lithium, 2x300mg. 300 morn, 300 night
03-17-2014 - Present: Seroquel, 250 mg. 22:00 hours
06-01-2014 - Present: Diazepam, 10mg. before bed
07-31-2014 - Present: Lamotrogine, 25mg. before bed

I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
persistence
August 7, 2014 - 7:55 am
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persistence
Total Posts: 1532
Joined: 08-11-2012
As to the following, I would appreciate your comments and observations:

I saw a new psychiatrist for the first time last week and he informed me that Seroquel (quetiapine) can cause high blood sugar, so he told me to get it checked.

Sure enough my glucose is 162 mg/dL ("probable diabetes mellitus") when it should be between 70 and 99.

There was nothing wrong with my blood sugar before I started taking Seroquel (although I do have a family history of diabetes and I'm about 50 pounds overweight, partly because of the Seroquel).

I was going to go to the laboratory this morning and have it checked again, to see if it might have been an anomaly or a mistake, but I've spoken with two friends who are psychiatrists as well as the one I'm seeing and none of them told me to redo the test, so maybe that's not necessary or useful.

My treating psychiatrist moved my next appointment closer from the beginning of September to August 15, because of the glucose result. He says there is another medication I can take that will reduce my glucose level and help me lose weight. I wonder if anyone on here knows what medication reduces glucose levels and appetite?

So, if I understand the process he's proposing, I'm going to take one medication for my mood, which medication hardly works, and then I'm going to take another so that the first medication doesn't cause permanent diabetes and all of the side effects and potential complications that come with diabetes?

That doesn't sound like it's worth it to me. It sounds like it would make more sense for me to take 200mg Seroquel before bed instead of 800mg per day, eat less because I'm taking less Seroquel, which would help me to lose weight and would help me to reduce my glucose level. Then, I might not need a second medication to reduce my glucose level.

One of friends who is a psychiatrist suggested that I not suddenly stop taking quetiapine if it has been stabilizing my mood. But it HASN'T been stabilizing my mood. In fact, I wrote a two page suicide note over the weekend (available for your perusal at the following link), so the Seroquel isn't helping me much. https://www.moodtracker.com/fo...

I'm going to reduce the amount of Seroquel I'm taking by 75% and see if that helps my blood sugar. It won't hurt it and I would prefer to preserve my fully functioning body rather than end up saddled with both mental and physical catastrophes.

I've been seeing a therapist, but I decided to stop seeing her. Although she promised me that she was a cognitive behavioral therapist, she has been asking me to find answers within myself for questions to which she believes she already knows the answer. She says I will benefit from the process of figuring out the answers myself. I KNOW she will benefit financially if it takes me two months to discover what she could have just told me in a moment.

I told this therapist that our discussions felt like an Easter Egg hunt or that children's game called "Hot Peas and Butter", in which someone knows the answer but only tells the people looking whether they are "getting warm" or "getting cold" as they search for an item whose location is already known to someone in the game.

I told this therapist that I want the kind of therapist who will tell me if my zipper is open rather than ask me how my day was while hoping I would eventually discover the open zipper through a series of Socratic questions.

So, I quit the therapy and I'm going to spend the saved money going to the beach and swimming, which will help me lose weight, which was one of my primary reasons for going to therapy in the first place.

It is very rare for me to get sick, but I had a slight pneumonia earlier this year. I never experienced anything like that before taking Seroquel. Now, I read that quetiapine can make a person more susceptible to pulmonary infections. I'm going to stop taking that feces in a pill. It might not be best for me to make these decisions on my own, against doctors orders, but this body and this brain are mine and I have a right to do with them as I please.

I'm not going to take a medicine that will give me diabetes and then take another medicine to bring down my blood sugar, as if I were a diabetic, which I might already be. Screw that. I'm just going to stop taking the medication that is driving up my weight and my blood sugar.

When I talk with the psychiatrist a week from now, we can discuss the whole picture and decide what to do globally.

If you have any knowledge or opinions about the above, I would appreciate hearing from you in the comments section below.

P.



Current medications as of 08-07-2014
10-30-1986 - Present: Alcohol (beer, vodka, etc.), 0.000001. NEVER
10-30-1986 - Present: Marijuana, 0.000000000001. NEVER
08-11-2007 - Present: Valium/diazepam, 5mg. Rarely, only if trouble sleeping at night.
08-29-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 100mg. Every night (or early morning) right before I go to sleep.
10-02-2012 - Present: MiniPress (Prazosin), 1mg at night. 10:00 PM
10-06-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 200mg. 10PM
10-31-2012 - Present: MiniPress (prazosin), 2mg. One hour before bedtime.
10-31-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 400mg. One hour before bedtime.
11-19-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. 10:00PM (1 hour before bed)
12-28-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. Each night at 10PM
01-07-2013 - Present: Lithium, 300mg. At night, with quetiapine and carbemazepine,
02-07-2013 - Present: Inositol Capsules, 4x500mgcapsules. At night, before bed.
05-10-2013 - Present: Lithium, 900mg. 450mg AM, 450PM
05-14-2013 - Present: Seroquel, 600mg. night
06-02-2013 - Present: Lithium, 1,000mg. 500 morning, 500 night
07-09-2013 - Present: Depakote, 500mg. 250mg, 12 + 12hrs, after morning & night meals
07-29-2013 - Present: Lithium, 2x300mg. 300 morn, 300 night
03-17-2014 - Present: Seroquel, 250 mg. 22:00 hours
06-01-2014 - Present: Diazepam, 10mg. before bed
07-31-2014 - Present: Lamotrogine, 25mg. before bed

I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
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persistence
persistence
August 7, 2014 - 7:55 am
As to the following, I would appreciate your comments and observations:

I saw a new psychiatrist for the first time last week and he informed me that Seroquel (quetiapine) can cause high blood sugar, so he told me to get it checked.

Sure enough my glucose is 162 mg/dL ("probable diabetes mellitus") when it should be between 70 and 99.

There was nothing wrong with my blood sugar before I started taking Seroquel (although I do have a family history of diabetes and I'm about 50 pounds overweight, partly because of the Seroquel).

I was going to go to the laboratory this morning and have it checked again, to see if it might have been an anomaly or a mistake, but I've spoken with two friends who are psychiatrists as well as the one I'm seeing and none of them told me to redo the test, so maybe that's not necessary or useful.

My treating psychiatrist moved my next appointment closer from the beginning of September to August 15, because of the glucose result. He says there is another medication I can take that will reduce my glucose level and help me lose weight. I wonder if anyone on here knows what medication reduces glucose levels and appetite?

So, if I understand the process he's proposing, I'm going to take one medication for my mood, which medication hardly works, and then I'm going to take another so that the first medication doesn't cause permanent diabetes and all of the side effects and potential complications that come with diabetes?

That doesn't sound like it's worth it to me. It sounds like it would make more sense for me to take 200mg Seroquel before bed instead of 800mg per day, eat less because I'm taking less Seroquel, which would help me to lose weight and would help me to reduce my glucose level. Then, I might not need a second medication to reduce my glucose level.

One of friends who is a psychiatrist suggested that I not suddenly stop taking quetiapine if it has been stabilizing my mood. But it HASN'T been stabilizing my mood. In fact, I wrote a two page suicide note over the weekend (available for your perusal at the following link), so the Seroquel isn't helping me much. https://www.moodtracker.com/fo...

I'm going to reduce the amount of Seroquel I'm taking by 75% and see if that helps my blood sugar. It won't hurt it and I would prefer to preserve my fully functioning body rather than end up saddled with both mental and physical catastrophes.

I've been seeing a therapist, but I decided to stop seeing her. Although she promised me that she was a cognitive behavioral therapist, she has been asking me to find answers within myself for questions to which she believes she already knows the answer. She says I will benefit from the process of figuring out the answers myself. I KNOW she will benefit financially if it takes me two months to discover what she could have just told me in a moment.

I told this therapist that our discussions felt like an Easter Egg hunt or that children's game called "Hot Peas and Butter", in which someone knows the answer but only tells the people looking whether they are "getting warm" or "getting cold" as they search for an item whose location is already known to someone in the game.

I told this therapist that I want the kind of therapist who will tell me if my zipper is open rather than ask me how my day was while hoping I would eventually discover the open zipper through a series of Socratic questions.

So, I quit the therapy and I'm going to spend the saved money going to the beach and swimming, which will help me lose weight, which was one of my primary reasons for going to therapy in the first place.

It is very rare for me to get sick, but I had a slight pneumonia earlier this year. I never experienced anything like that before taking Seroquel. Now, I read that quetiapine can make a person more susceptible to pulmonary infections. I'm going to stop taking that feces in a pill. It might not be best for me to make these decisions on my own, against doctors orders, but this body and this brain are mine and I have a right to do with them as I please.

I'm not going to take a medicine that will give me diabetes and then take another medicine to bring down my blood sugar, as if I were a diabetic, which I might already be. Screw that. I'm just going to stop taking the medication that is driving up my weight and my blood sugar.

When I talk with the psychiatrist a week from now, we can discuss the whole picture and decide what to do globally.

If you have any knowledge or opinions about the above, I would appreciate hearing from you in the comments section below.

P.



Current medications as of 08-07-2014
10-30-1986 - Present: Alcohol (beer, vodka, etc.), 0.000001. NEVER
10-30-1986 - Present: Marijuana, 0.000000000001. NEVER
08-11-2007 - Present: Valium/diazepam, 5mg. Rarely, only if trouble sleeping at night.
08-29-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 100mg. Every night (or early morning) right before I go to sleep.
10-02-2012 - Present: MiniPress (Prazosin), 1mg at night. 10:00 PM
10-06-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 200mg. 10PM
10-31-2012 - Present: MiniPress (prazosin), 2mg. One hour before bedtime.
10-31-2012 - Present: Seroquel/quetiapine, 400mg. One hour before bedtime.
11-19-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. 10:00PM (1 hour before bed)
12-28-2012 - Present: Seroquel (quetiapine), 800mg. Each night at 10PM
01-07-2013 - Present: Lithium, 300mg. At night, with quetiapine and carbemazepine,
02-07-2013 - Present: Inositol Capsules, 4x500mgcapsules. At night, before bed.
05-10-2013 - Present: Lithium, 900mg. 450mg AM, 450PM
05-14-2013 - Present: Seroquel, 600mg. night
06-02-2013 - Present: Lithium, 1,000mg. 500 morning, 500 night
07-09-2013 - Present: Depakote, 500mg. 250mg, 12 + 12hrs, after morning & night meals
07-29-2013 - Present: Lithium, 2x300mg. 300 morn, 300 night
03-17-2014 - Present: Seroquel, 250 mg. 22:00 hours
06-01-2014 - Present: Diazepam, 10mg. before bed
07-31-2014 - Present: Lamotrogine, 25mg. before bed

I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
bluedragon76
August 7, 2014 - 10:10 am
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Be careful just quitting seroquel it can have a discontinuation syndrome. I just switched from seroquel to Latuda and it seems to be working very well. Maybe trying something new would help.

My blood sugar has been borderline high since I started on seroquel. I'm hoping it goes down know that I'm off it.


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bluedragon76
August 7, 2014 - 10:10 am
Be careful just quitting seroquel it can have a discontinuation syndrome. I just switched from seroquel to Latuda and it seems to be working very well. Maybe trying something new would help.

My blood sugar has been borderline high since I started on seroquel. I'm hoping it goes down know that I'm off it.


persistence
August 7, 2014 - 2:44 pm
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Bluedragon,

Thanks for the warning about quitting Seroquel too quickly.

I was swimming today and the sun came out and I could feel a kind of stinging in my skin that I only feel when I'm taking 800mg of Seroquel. That's one of the known potential side effects of Seroquel. I can be walking down the street and suddenly I start to sting all over, as if it were a hundred pin pricks. I want to scratch but it doesn't do any good at all. I'll be glad when most of this Seroquel is out of my system.

I take that back. I don't know HOW I'll feel when it's out of my system, but I'm glad right now that I'm getting off of it. I don't care WHAT the psychiatrist says; I'm not taking a medicine that makes me diabetic!

P.


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persistence
August 7, 2014 - 2:44 pm
Bluedragon,

Thanks for the warning about quitting Seroquel too quickly.

I was swimming today and the sun came out and I could feel a kind of stinging in my skin that I only feel when I'm taking 800mg of Seroquel. That's one of the known potential side effects of Seroquel. I can be walking down the street and suddenly I start to sting all over, as if it were a hundred pin pricks. I want to scratch but it doesn't do any good at all. I'll be glad when most of this Seroquel is out of my system.

I take that back. I don't know HOW I'll feel when it's out of my system, but I'm glad right now that I'm getting off of it. I don't care WHAT the psychiatrist says; I'm not taking a medicine that makes me diabetic!

P.


I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
dpressed
August 7, 2014 - 6:08 pm
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Seroquel can damage your liver have you been getting regular blood work done to check the enzymes and liver functions?


“Verily, with hardship there is relief.” (94:6)

“Peace be upon you, because you peresevered in patience! Excellent indeed is the final home!” (13:24)

“O’ you who believe! Seek help in patience and the Prayer.” (2:153)
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dpressed
August 7, 2014 - 6:08 pm
Seroquel can damage your liver have you been getting regular blood work done to check the enzymes and liver functions?


“Verily, with hardship there is relief.” (94:6)

“Peace be upon you, because you peresevered in patience! Excellent indeed is the final home!” (13:24)

“O’ you who believe! Seek help in patience and the Prayer.” (2:153)
kumbaya
August 8, 2014 - 12:12 am
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I got diabetes type 2 and gained a considerable amount of weight (80 lbs) while on Seroquel and Depakote. The weight gain has caused me to have to take blood pressure and cholesterol medications as well. It hasn't been easy but I'm very grateful i have been able to not take those two meds anymore.

One thing that helped for about a year was switching to Abilify instead of Seroquel. And Zolpidem was a life saver as well for over two years until I experienced first hand what people were talking about - being totally awake while asleep! I couldn't remember anything & I've been clean over 4 yrs but got a dewey (DUI) that night because I was compelled to drive and really believed I had a very important errand to run.

My coworker has been on Seroquel for over seven years and he recently got a big cyst on his pancreas. He decided to stop taking it and he said the pain went down considerably in less than 2 days.

100 to 300 mgs of quetiapine was both a sleep aid and bipolar maintenance. Still my blood sugar got very high and still is despite metformin. I will probably have to start using insulin sooner than later. However, I truly believe if I could balance sleep, diet, exercise and meditation I might not have to be on any meds. My only psych med now is Vyvanse and I've tried to stop taking it a few times because it really does a number on your stomach BUT I become hypomanic between 4 & 10 days and start cycling towards mania. Today my p-doc sent in a script for something called hydroxyzine (sp?) an antihistamine he thinks may help me sleep.

Well good luck to you in working this all out

-kby-


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kumbaya
August 8, 2014 - 12:12 am
I got diabetes type 2 and gained a considerable amount of weight (80 lbs) while on Seroquel and Depakote. The weight gain has caused me to have to take blood pressure and cholesterol medications as well. It hasn't been easy but I'm very grateful i have been able to not take those two meds anymore.

One thing that helped for about a year was switching to Abilify instead of Seroquel. And Zolpidem was a life saver as well for over two years until I experienced first hand what people were talking about - being totally awake while asleep! I couldn't remember anything & I've been clean over 4 yrs but got a dewey (DUI) that night because I was compelled to drive and really believed I had a very important errand to run.

My coworker has been on Seroquel for over seven years and he recently got a big cyst on his pancreas. He decided to stop taking it and he said the pain went down considerably in less than 2 days.

100 to 300 mgs of quetiapine was both a sleep aid and bipolar maintenance. Still my blood sugar got very high and still is despite metformin. I will probably have to start using insulin sooner than later. However, I truly believe if I could balance sleep, diet, exercise and meditation I might not have to be on any meds. My only psych med now is Vyvanse and I've tried to stop taking it a few times because it really does a number on your stomach BUT I become hypomanic between 4 & 10 days and start cycling towards mania. Today my p-doc sent in a script for something called hydroxyzine (sp?) an antihistamine he thinks may help me sleep.

Well good luck to you in working this all out

-kby-


persistence
August 8, 2014 - 10:11 am
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dpressed,

I don't think I've had my liver function tested in a while. I'll ask my psychiatrist what tests I need to measure that.

Kumbaya,

I'm going to start taking only 200mg a day of Seroquel, just because it helps me to sleep better and wards off PTSD dreams at that level. I'll be taking 75% less than I was taking before, and then I'll get my glucose tested again in a few weeks and see if it's gone down. Maybe I'll have to stop taking Seroquel entirely, to avoid the negative side effects that it has on the body, as you noted.

I hope that with the diminished appetite that comes with dumping the Seroquel, and going back to swimming regularly, my weight will rapidly get back down into overweight instead of obese. And then I'll see what my glucose level looks like then.

I don't want the life of a diabetic and certainly not if it can be avoided by changing mood stabilizers.

I'll talk with my psychiatrists about Ablify and Zolpidem and hydroxyzine and see what they say.

P.


I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.
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persistence
persistence
August 8, 2014 - 10:11 am
dpressed,

I don't think I've had my liver function tested in a while. I'll ask my psychiatrist what tests I need to measure that.

Kumbaya,

I'm going to start taking only 200mg a day of Seroquel, just because it helps me to sleep better and wards off PTSD dreams at that level. I'll be taking 75% less than I was taking before, and then I'll get my glucose tested again in a few weeks and see if it's gone down. Maybe I'll have to stop taking Seroquel entirely, to avoid the negative side effects that it has on the body, as you noted.

I hope that with the diminished appetite that comes with dumping the Seroquel, and going back to swimming regularly, my weight will rapidly get back down into overweight instead of obese. And then I'll see what my glucose level looks like then.

I don't want the life of a diabetic and certainly not if it can be avoided by changing mood stabilizers.

I'll talk with my psychiatrists about Ablify and Zolpidem and hydroxyzine and see what they say.

P.


I'd rather have a frontal lobotomy than a bottle in front of me.

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