Bipolar 1 Downgraded to Bipolar 2

I used to act consistent with Bipolar I.

When I became aware that some of my behaviors were extreme, I became able to opt out of some of the megalomania, determined sleepless!ess, multiple simultaneous projects and relationships...

I became aware that they were part of a sickness rather

thought you only needed one manic episode to be BP1? If you only have Hypo after you still had the manic episode... or did i miss something?

Catriona,
As the diagnostic rules are now, you are right one true manic or mixed episode and you are BP1, you didn’t miss anything. Some people’s disease process changes as they move along in life just like anything else. I think for Persistence he feels more BP2 now than he was in the past. I’m BP1 I’m fairly stable now, tho I’ve been feeling on the low side lately. I get hypomanic from time to time, which means whatever little amt of money I have gets spent. Sometimes it means my room gets cleaned to with in an inch of its life (trying to get that to happen instead of the spending).
I don’t usually get truly manic all by itself I have the joy of being mixed. Desperately depressed but not being able to sit down having to find something to do cause your brain just won’t shut up
Haven’t had this in a few years so I’m gonna knock wood it doesn’t happen anytime soon.

Hope I cleared things up an$ not made it more confusing
Blue

Catriona,

I believe you are right that one only need have one manic episode to be bipolar 1.

And so even as I wrote the topic above, I knew it would be debatable if not outright incorrect.

In my most outrageous episode, in 2003, I was driving so recklessly that I decided to go to a mental hospital. I knew something was desperately wrong with me and I wanted to go to a mental hospital.

A friend went with me to the mental hospital and try to help me get admitted there, but they did not think that I needed hospitalization. Even my friend did not agree that I needed hospitalization, but he assisted me in trying to get hospitalized because it was what I wanted. In trying to get hospitalized because it was what I wanted.

So, I returned on my own later and I asked what would happen if I shot someone. I asked whether I would go to jail or mental institution.

Then, I was admitted to a relaxed and calm mental ward, which was calm until they told me that I could not do as I had planned, which was to share books with people on the ward.

I took off all of my clothing and walked back to the common room. They told me to either put my clothing back on or go to a locked room.

I was in an escalating mood, so I told them go ahead and put me in a locker room. I guess that when I am in a bad mood I do not like for people to say no.

Once in the locked room, I found a 3-foot piece of Steel that was part of the frame of the bed. I use that piece of Steel to rip all of the water pipes off of the wall, which caused the flood in the hall outside of the room.

All of this did not attract any attention, so I decided to break the window and jump out. However, the window was made of unbreakable glass and the staff came.

I confronted the staff with the metal rod and I said someone is going to die tonight. That is the last thing that I remember before I awoke in my normal room.

Shortly thereafter I was placed in the maximum security Ward, dropped to what would otherwise have been a very comfortable chair, and I could not get out of the restraints, no matter how hard I tried.

I don't know whether the above or a mixed episode. If it does then I qualify as bipolar 1.

After 5 weeks in the maximum security Ward, I went back to visit the psychiatrist who had been treating me on an outpatient basis. He looked at me like I was a strange Beast, asked me why I had done what I had done, for which I had no answer at all, and then he told me that he would not treat me anymore.

Hearing that anything I said or did might get me placed in the maximum security Ward again, I moved away from that country.

Perhaps my most Troublesome symptom for myself and others is ruminating about committing suicide, developing plans, trying to implement them but failing to make a sufficiently serious effort.

I have not been hospitalized since, because someone who is out of control. Because, in a mental hospital, they have very effective ways of making a person regret smashing things that they could have smashed at home without any such serious consequences.

Since those days I have stop smashing things, with the exception of my motorcycle and much of the furniture in our house on one occasion.

That was a long time ago 10 years ago, and now I principally act out by heckling people online and driving my motorcycle directly toward oncoming cars when I feel particularly bad.

Compared to my older brother people who know me think I am crazy but not dangerous.

I know that I need to take 25 mg of Seroquel per day, and 2 mg of Xanax and 40 mg Prozac, what does that, taken by itself or in combination, prove that I am bipolar 1?

I also have to live in a house by the beach, decidedly secluded, where no one bothers me for the most part. I cannot and do not work, because when I did work I felt overwhelming anxiety that I would not be able to continue working.

Psychiatrists do not disagree with me when I say that I am back bipolar. They do not seem to care weather I am classified as bipolar 1 or bipolar 2. They are content to prescribe for me the medication above and there is really nothing more that they can do, or so they say.

So, artista and others, you can tell me whether I appear bipolar 1 or bipolar 2 or something else.

I know that no one here can diagnose me, but your opinions are of interest to me.

It does seem to me that the episode in the hospital is sufficiently some similar similar two episodes recounted by others here who know that they are bipolar 1, because if they do not take medicine regularly then the episode repeat themselves, pretty much without fail.

Maybe I am a fortunate bipolar 1, in that my symptoms are not as Grave as those which caused my older brother to disappear 25 years ago and never be heard of again.

I guess that as long as I continue to take my medicine and make an effort to abstain from overtly and publicly crazy behavior, aside from the quite normal behavior of trying to cause head-on collisions, then it will not matter whether I am bipolar 1 or bipolar 2.

Thank you for your patience, if you have read this far. Thank you for your concern, if you still have time to comment below.

Persistence,
Mine went from bp2 to bp1
It is how it is ... It is probably based on your latest problems.
I am ok with this. I just had a 2 week time in the psychiatric ward.
I was such a horrible place.

Self horrible place ,
The hospital staff were fantastic. I had the best care.
Medication cocktail is just what I wanted. It was agreeable.
Their answers and mine coincided. I feel very blessed.

Oliver, I'm sorry to hear that because I know the process at least starts in the misdt of a crisis.

What happened?

Between sleepless hypomania nights and days . Running on medication induced mania. Talked fast. Did incredible amounts of work. Way way too much. For example too. I ran 2 hrs. Some days more. I was soaking wet from sweat. Looks like I came out of a swimming pool. Seroquel for me was like opiod addiction with wellbutrin aboard. There's much I have to say. Details. But it would take a small book to print it out. Once those meds were coming out of my system I got very depressed . I stopped eating sugar. Since I was a sugar addict now. Raiding the fridge at night on seroquel. Sleepless nights , create lots and lots of pain. If it happens way too much. Depravation and insanity happened. I was crying out. I don't want to die. I just don't want to live. I had all but drop to my knees crying mercy and help me. It couldn't be fixed outside of a hospital. I was ideating. But also had some violent thoughts of taking my life. The nurse called 911 ambulance to bring me to the hospital. Saint Raphael's. They have a reading of the bible or sweet prayer on their intercom. I heard others in there who were having that same cry from the belly. Help me, help me. Thank you, for asking me with concern Persistence. What happened. Guess what? I couldn't run like I was running. I can walk and jog a bit. But I am just trying to show how medication can alter what you can do. Not in a good way. Yet now, it is in a good way. I suggested an antipsychotic that I was put on in my first hospitalization. I did get better. That was a 3 month stay in hospital at 19. The doctor listened. Oh my God. Took away wellbutrin because of hypomania. Lamictal stayed but they brought down the amount. I was wanting all of this before I went in. It's working for me. I am really grateful. Especially because someone listened. My weight was about 100 pounds. On the dangerously low side upon admission. There was no relief

Oliver I’m so glad you are feeling better, that is a hard place to be feelings wise. It’s ended me in the hospital a couple of times too. Getting the right mix of meds can be hard, glad it’s working out for you

I've never been hospitalized (thank God), but I did have to go through different meds to get me
really stabilized. I found I personally couldn't take Lorazipam. While it knocked down the manic,
it kicked up the depression. I was trying to go to school at the time and the instructor for one
of my classes had thought I had been drinking because I had been crying at one point in class.
Needless to say, I had to tell my pdoc at the time to take me off -- IMMEDIATELY. To this date,
I refuse to take it.