anger management and the snap factor

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princesskamy
April 27, 2009 - 9:45 pm
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This is an area I dont have a whole lot of experience with. I have a girl in my bipolar support group that I've been working with. She has the temper and snap factor and I dont so I dont have too good of an understanding of it. Her husband annoys the hell out of her and she has outbursts. Sometimes the police get involved. She is doing better now a little and trying not to react on that impulse thought to lash out......is there anything else that would help?


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princesskamy
April 27, 2009 - 9:45 pm
This is an area I dont have a whole lot of experience with. I have a girl in my bipolar support group that I've been working with. She has the temper and snap factor and I dont so I dont have too good of an understanding of it. Her husband annoys the hell out of her and she has outbursts. Sometimes the police get involved. She is doing better now a little and trying not to react on that impulse thought to lash out......is there anything else that would help?


wotcrazyness
April 29, 2009 - 6:44 am
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I do the temper - snap thing too. Every time I hate myself for it... but I can't help it. I've done a variety of keep calm/stress/anger management/parenting courses, but they don't reach the surface when you're at breaking point for whatever reason.
My psych has me on a cocktail of drugs. At least one is supposed to help calm me so that I don't get that response as much (it might be the Seroquel=quetiapine).
The lash-out response pretty much led to me having to leave my last job. Ouch, that's hard to say.
Before I had a diagnosis, I used to turn the lash-out reflex into something constructive - cleaning the bathroom, etc - at 1am with me intentionally thumping everything possible along the way! I still do that, but given how awful it makes me feel in the second after, I often go and hide and tell myself how terrible I am. I need the space but also someone to drag me out of the self-destructive spiral. More typically these days I will storm out the front door and walk till the blisters send me home, limping.
My dad is very good at that, though I haven't lived at home in 16 years. He wouldn't ever say anything, just come in with one of his fancy milkshakes (crème de menthe, mmm) and leave again. The quiet show of love was often my undoing when I was still angry.

I don't know if that's helpful?



Current medications as of 04-29-2009
04-01-2009 - Present: Epilim, 200 mg. 7.30am, 12.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Epilim, 300 mg. 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Lamictal, 75 mg. 10.00am
04-01-2009 - Present: Multivitamin, 1+. 8.30am
04-01-2009 - Present: Pill, 1+. 9.30pm - skip 2/3 periods
04-01-2009 - Present: Quilonum, 450 mg. 5.00pm, 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 225 mg. 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 25 mg. 8.00pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 6.25mg. 12.30pm, 5.00pm, 6.30pm
04-19-2009 - Present: Lamictal, 50 mg. 0830, 1230, 2000, 2130

Wotcrazyness
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wotcrazyness
April 29, 2009 - 6:44 am
I do the temper - snap thing too. Every time I hate myself for it... but I can't help it. I've done a variety of keep calm/stress/anger management/parenting courses, but they don't reach the surface when you're at breaking point for whatever reason.
My psych has me on a cocktail of drugs. At least one is supposed to help calm me so that I don't get that response as much (it might be the Seroquel=quetiapine).
The lash-out response pretty much led to me having to leave my last job. Ouch, that's hard to say.
Before I had a diagnosis, I used to turn the lash-out reflex into something constructive - cleaning the bathroom, etc - at 1am with me intentionally thumping everything possible along the way! I still do that, but given how awful it makes me feel in the second after, I often go and hide and tell myself how terrible I am. I need the space but also someone to drag me out of the self-destructive spiral. More typically these days I will storm out the front door and walk till the blisters send me home, limping.
My dad is very good at that, though I haven't lived at home in 16 years. He wouldn't ever say anything, just come in with one of his fancy milkshakes (crème de menthe, mmm) and leave again. The quiet show of love was often my undoing when I was still angry.

I don't know if that's helpful?



Current medications as of 04-29-2009
04-01-2009 - Present: Epilim, 200 mg. 7.30am, 12.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Epilim, 300 mg. 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Lamictal, 75 mg. 10.00am
04-01-2009 - Present: Multivitamin, 1+. 8.30am
04-01-2009 - Present: Pill, 1+. 9.30pm - skip 2/3 periods
04-01-2009 - Present: Quilonum, 450 mg. 5.00pm, 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 225 mg. 9.30pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 25 mg. 8.00pm
04-01-2009 - Present: Seroquel, 6.25mg. 12.30pm, 5.00pm, 6.30pm
04-19-2009 - Present: Lamictal, 50 mg. 0830, 1230, 2000, 2130

Wotcrazyness
abrownie8908
April 29, 2009 - 7:50 am
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I have problems with this, and like wotcrazyness said, it is sometimes easier to turn the urges into something constructive. As an alternative, you may want to think about buying an inexpensive punching bag (I used to have a blow up one that filled in the bottom with sand). Sadly, I actually destroyed it.

At work, we have about 3 or 4 boxes of old keyboards, and I'll go in the back and attack them with a hammer.

There was a time when I'd turn my actions on someone else. The worst was when I was dating a guy who was schizophrenic. That was just frightening.


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abrownie8908
April 29, 2009 - 7:50 am
I have problems with this, and like wotcrazyness said, it is sometimes easier to turn the urges into something constructive. As an alternative, you may want to think about buying an inexpensive punching bag (I used to have a blow up one that filled in the bottom with sand). Sadly, I actually destroyed it.

At work, we have about 3 or 4 boxes of old keyboards, and I'll go in the back and attack them with a hammer.

There was a time when I'd turn my actions on someone else. The worst was when I was dating a guy who was schizophrenic. That was just frightening.


princesskamy
April 29, 2009 - 8:28 pm
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ok where here is the other issue you guys, and I'm not sure if I'm off on this because I know for a long time i did crutch the way I acted and most importantly on the disorder. So that I didnt have to take responsibility or be accountable for my actions. With a bit of education I have a better understanding of the perimeters of my own disorder and wonder sometimes if she is crutching and making it an excuse like I used to. That everyone around her has to walk on eggshells kuz she can go off at any time for any reason......and Im left with concern and empathy for those around her, because I know she snaps at them. I kinda learned a different reaction (not that it always works), but being an addict as well I cannot act on the first thought in my head which would be the "snap" and keep going back thru the line up of thoughts until I found a more reasonable one.......that took a long time for me to do. What it offered me was the ability to not have to feel the guilt connected with my appropriate or inappropriate outbursts. I have alot of pressure on my not only to perform "normal" but always act appropriate because of the case with my daughter........and outburst could be so damaging and make it harder for me to get her back home. This girl is in the same system and if I dont find a way to help her help herself I'm scared she will lose her children and she has 4 in the system right now.


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princesskamy
princesskamy
April 29, 2009 - 8:28 pm
ok where here is the other issue you guys, and I'm not sure if I'm off on this because I know for a long time i did crutch the way I acted and most importantly on the disorder. So that I didnt have to take responsibility or be accountable for my actions. With a bit of education I have a better understanding of the perimeters of my own disorder and wonder sometimes if she is crutching and making it an excuse like I used to. That everyone around her has to walk on eggshells kuz she can go off at any time for any reason......and Im left with concern and empathy for those around her, because I know she snaps at them. I kinda learned a different reaction (not that it always works), but being an addict as well I cannot act on the first thought in my head which would be the "snap" and keep going back thru the line up of thoughts until I found a more reasonable one.......that took a long time for me to do. What it offered me was the ability to not have to feel the guilt connected with my appropriate or inappropriate outbursts. I have alot of pressure on my not only to perform "normal" but always act appropriate because of the case with my daughter........and outburst could be so damaging and make it harder for me to get her back home. This girl is in the same system and if I dont find a way to help her help herself I'm scared she will lose her children and she has 4 in the system right now.


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