Dissociation anyone?

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LIETTEMARIE
September 8, 2012 - 2:29 am
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Does anyone else feel like this? I just got diagnosed with BPD and BP. I feel like the whole world is spinning. around me and everything is really quiet. I feel withdrawn from people, disconnected like I live on a different planet. This probably isn't the meds seems as they are meant to help emotional withdraw. I don't understand I feel like my methods of feeling are completely different than other people. When people speak to me about how they feel I try to be empathetic, but I feel nothing most of the time. I feel like there is a solid wall between me and the rest of the world and no one will ever be able to come through it. I skip work, and it doesn't matter to me. I know I have bills to be payed, but it's like it seems not very important. When people speak to me sometimes I barely understand what they say, and it seems like they fade into the background. I constantly feel high or drunk even though I am nether. Does anyone else feel like this?


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LIETTEMARIE
September 8, 2012 - 2:29 am
Does anyone else feel like this? I just got diagnosed with BPD and BP. I feel like the whole world is spinning. around me and everything is really quiet. I feel withdrawn from people, disconnected like I live on a different planet. This probably isn't the meds seems as they are meant to help emotional withdraw. I don't understand I feel like my methods of feeling are completely different than other people. When people speak to me about how they feel I try to be empathetic, but I feel nothing most of the time. I feel like there is a solid wall between me and the rest of the world and no one will ever be able to come through it. I skip work, and it doesn't matter to me. I know I have bills to be payed, but it's like it seems not very important. When people speak to me sometimes I barely understand what they say, and it seems like they fade into the background. I constantly feel high or drunk even though I am nether. Does anyone else feel like this?


artista
September 8, 2012 - 3:44 pm
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About a year ago, I was having terrible problems with dissociation. I don't think any people on this site really experience it, or at least they rarely mention such symptoms. There are a lot of ways to dissociate. My experience was mainly losing time (in about 2 hour chunks), feeling unreal, feeling like a robot, talking with someone and having them fade as you are doing, feeling nothing. It was not a good time.

I do not have BDP, but complex PTSD. I think though that the root causes are the same. Mine was childhood abuse. I grew up in an abusive environment with a lot of violence. I was an only child and had no one to turn to for comfort. There was some sexual abuse as well. Weird thing is that my parents really did love me, that I know. I got a lot of mixed messages growing up.

I am a pretty insecure adult, with low self esteem. I like to hibernate and often feel depressed. These are things that I am working on with a therapist, which I have only been seeing for about a year.

The therapy I have been doing is called Brainspotting. It is like a form of EMDR. It has helped me immensely, and I hardly dissociate anymore, at least not to the point where it interferes with my work life.

One thing you can do to help with your dissociative symptoms is to focus on something physical. For instance, if you start feeling dissociation coming on, then grab an ice cube, put your feet on the cold floor, hug a teddy bear, eat a really strong mint, etc. These kinds of things can help you stay grounded. For me, I know my triggers at work (people in authority) so if I have a meeting, I bring my mints, some ice water and a small rock to squeeze in my palm (no one sees that). I know it sounds weird, but it helps.

You will be able to figure out your triggers with a therapist. You may even be helped by some drugs, though since I was already on my meds at the time I did not get adjusted there. Somehow my pdoc, without saying, thinks a lot of my depression is psychological. I suppose he could be right, but how does he know? Is it written on my forehead?!

I find psychiatry/psychology facsinating and do read a lot. You will find a lot of good books on dissociation, one of the best authors is Colin Ross. However, most literature discusses the extreme case of DID, dissociative identity disorder. Interesting enough, and you might relate a lot. I did even though I am not DID. I would venture to say I was DDNOS as I was dissociating a great deal of the day. Not anymore thank goodness!

WIth regard to BP and BPD, have you read any books on the topic? Really, educating yourself is really important so you can identify your BP triggers and keep your moods under control. However, please realize the more you read, the less you know! Honestly, this is pretty complex stuff and only a professional should be relied on to help you through all this. Don't try to go it alone, go off meds, etc. You need some kind of support.

For me, my PTSD complicates things because I often have no mood. I can feel absolutely nothing. I still find it hard to get out of my world and care about others. Sometimes I think I am pretty selfish, and that maybe it is because I never had kids. Who knows. I just keep trying to stay positive, or at least paint that picture for people. You just can't give into you MI diagnosis and let it define who you are.

Do you have a therapist? Are you on meds? I am sure you might have posted that in the bipolar area, but my memory stinks. Are you younger, older?

Take care and write when you have the need.


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artista
artista
September 8, 2012 - 3:44 pm
About a year ago, I was having terrible problems with dissociation. I don't think any people on this site really experience it, or at least they rarely mention such symptoms. There are a lot of ways to dissociate. My experience was mainly losing time (in about 2 hour chunks), feeling unreal, feeling like a robot, talking with someone and having them fade as you are doing, feeling nothing. It was not a good time.

I do not have BDP, but complex PTSD. I think though that the root causes are the same. Mine was childhood abuse. I grew up in an abusive environment with a lot of violence. I was an only child and had no one to turn to for comfort. There was some sexual abuse as well. Weird thing is that my parents really did love me, that I know. I got a lot of mixed messages growing up.

I am a pretty insecure adult, with low self esteem. I like to hibernate and often feel depressed. These are things that I am working on with a therapist, which I have only been seeing for about a year.

The therapy I have been doing is called Brainspotting. It is like a form of EMDR. It has helped me immensely, and I hardly dissociate anymore, at least not to the point where it interferes with my work life.

One thing you can do to help with your dissociative symptoms is to focus on something physical. For instance, if you start feeling dissociation coming on, then grab an ice cube, put your feet on the cold floor, hug a teddy bear, eat a really strong mint, etc. These kinds of things can help you stay grounded. For me, I know my triggers at work (people in authority) so if I have a meeting, I bring my mints, some ice water and a small rock to squeeze in my palm (no one sees that). I know it sounds weird, but it helps.

You will be able to figure out your triggers with a therapist. You may even be helped by some drugs, though since I was already on my meds at the time I did not get adjusted there. Somehow my pdoc, without saying, thinks a lot of my depression is psychological. I suppose he could be right, but how does he know? Is it written on my forehead?!

I find psychiatry/psychology facsinating and do read a lot. You will find a lot of good books on dissociation, one of the best authors is Colin Ross. However, most literature discusses the extreme case of DID, dissociative identity disorder. Interesting enough, and you might relate a lot. I did even though I am not DID. I would venture to say I was DDNOS as I was dissociating a great deal of the day. Not anymore thank goodness!

WIth regard to BP and BPD, have you read any books on the topic? Really, educating yourself is really important so you can identify your BP triggers and keep your moods under control. However, please realize the more you read, the less you know! Honestly, this is pretty complex stuff and only a professional should be relied on to help you through all this. Don't try to go it alone, go off meds, etc. You need some kind of support.

For me, my PTSD complicates things because I often have no mood. I can feel absolutely nothing. I still find it hard to get out of my world and care about others. Sometimes I think I am pretty selfish, and that maybe it is because I never had kids. Who knows. I just keep trying to stay positive, or at least paint that picture for people. You just can't give into you MI diagnosis and let it define who you are.

Do you have a therapist? Are you on meds? I am sure you might have posted that in the bipolar area, but my memory stinks. Are you younger, older?

Take care and write when you have the need.


LIETTEMARIE
September 8, 2012 - 8:30 pm
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Yes, I am on medication, but I currently do not have a therapist. I bounced around from therapist to therapist quite a bit before I got put onto meds because they all said I needed medication and they couldn't help me.

I did have childhood abuse when I was younger both physical and sexual though it only happened a few times on both occasions. The major dissociation started when I was with an abusive ex and then got worse after my house was robbed and I was physically attacked. One of my counsellors has said my dissociation is due to PTSD that has come from repeated traumatic events. I have pretty neutral feelings towards the events though. I sometimes have flashbacks, but I don't really feel traumatized as such. I can speak about the events like anything else really. I just don't have very many emotions about sex and relationships.

I am young I guess. I just turned 21.


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LIETTEMARIE
September 8, 2012 - 8:30 pm
Yes, I am on medication, but I currently do not have a therapist. I bounced around from therapist to therapist quite a bit before I got put onto meds because they all said I needed medication and they couldn't help me.

I did have childhood abuse when I was younger both physical and sexual though it only happened a few times on both occasions. The major dissociation started when I was with an abusive ex and then got worse after my house was robbed and I was physically attacked. One of my counsellors has said my dissociation is due to PTSD that has come from repeated traumatic events. I have pretty neutral feelings towards the events though. I sometimes have flashbacks, but I don't really feel traumatized as such. I can speak about the events like anything else really. I just don't have very many emotions about sex and relationships.

I am young I guess. I just turned 21.


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